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Post by Vancouver Canucks on May 1, 2011 13:34:27 GMT -5
As we all know the 2011 Canadian elections are Tomorrow. feel free to post your thoughts on it here Yesterday ( Van time) PR and flames and I had a Discussion/ Debate about the Harper Government and Obama and it was interesting because while Flames and I support the Conservatives PR said he's voting for the CHP ( Christian heritage party) which came as a shock to me. Let's continue this debate/Dicussion and you can post here who you want to win Attachments:
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Post by Personnel Representative on May 1, 2011 13:48:44 GMT -5
Whoa whoa whoa. I was VERY clear that I am NOT voting for the CHP, but I WOULD BE voting for the CHP candidate in my area. BIG difference there. I DO NOT support the party WHAT SO EVER. But I do, and will continue to, support the man.
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on May 1, 2011 13:55:26 GMT -5
Thats the same thing PR lol you vote for a Candidate of a party your still voting for that party what's the difference.
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Post by Personnel Representative on May 1, 2011 14:24:23 GMT -5
Disagree. If your mother was running for the Liberals, you would vote for the Liberals, not because you want the Liberals and Harper to win, but because she is your mother. You are voting for the PERSON. You can put your support where ever you want. I support Adrian Kooger, but STRONGLY oppose the CHP. As soon as Kooger stops running, I will stop voting for CHP.
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins on May 1, 2011 14:31:57 GMT -5
since the CHP won;t actually get any seats in the house. it is really just in support of the person. If it was a party that actually had a chance of winning the election, then you are voting for the party. As members always follow party lines anyway and no longer truly represent there riding.
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Post by XX - Former Wings - XX on May 1, 2011 14:46:15 GMT -5
That, IN ITS ENTIRETY, contradicts democracy and the freedom of speech.
Vote for who you think represents what you think is right, not a fucking figure head. Thanks.
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Post by Personnel Representative on May 1, 2011 14:49:33 GMT -5
Here's the shocking reality people. THE CANADIAN POLITICAL SYSTEM IS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC. A) people are not making decisions, they are selecting their leader. b) you do NOT select the leader of the party. c) it is physically impossible for an independent to be Prime Minister. You MUST be part of a party, and a major one a that. There is no true democracy in Canada. since the CHP won;t actually get any seats in the house. it is really just in support of the person. If it was a party that actually had a chance of winning the election, then you are voting for the party. As members always follow party lines anyway and no longer truly represent there riding. I agree with this. If they had a real chance at getting in, I would be a lot more reluctant to support the guy.  |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on May 1, 2011 14:53:12 GMT -5
Yeah you should of explained that too PR. I know it's just an example but my mom doesn't like the liberals at all ahaha. Ignatieff with his dum iPod tax idea but a guy who would put an iPod tax would get the idea to tax everything no joke.
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Post by XX - Former Wings - XX on May 1, 2011 15:00:04 GMT -5
Here's the shocking reality people. THE CANADIAN POLITICAL SYSTEM IS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC. A) people are not making decisions, they are selecting their leader. b) you do NOT select the leader of the party. c) it is physically impossible for an independent to be Prime Minister. You MUST be part of a party, and a major one a that. There is no true democracy in Canada. since the CHP won;t actually get any seats in the house. it is really just in support of the person. If it was a party that actually had a chance of winning the election, then you are voting for the party. As members always follow party lines anyway and no longer truly represent there riding. I agree with this. If they had a real chance at getting in, I would be a lot more reluctant to support the guy. Agreed. However, if we were to steer towards the full democratic system (which will NEVER be achieved, even in a complete utopia) , we would disregard the figure head, and rather vote for the principles of which a party stands for. |
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Post by Carolina Hurricanes on May 1, 2011 15:06:43 GMT -5
What is CHP lmao. I've never heard of them.
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on May 1, 2011 15:10:04 GMT -5
In the lower-mainland here in Vancouver lots of Christians are here would be a perfect place for CHP to start if they wanted to get seats in parliament . The problem is here is in Vancouver and metro Vancouver you will not get elected unless your from the community and are involved in it in a big way sorta what PR was saying with the support thing . The CHP bring outsiders to run in the ridings here . Almost all the Conservatives here are Christians and they have the trust of the people they have done alot for the lowermainland were getting a new bridge , we got road improvements Airport improvements and expansions list goes on. The CHP have potential they just need to get members who are from the communities here.and need to change some of their polices
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on May 1, 2011 15:10:34 GMT -5
Christian Heritage Party
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on May 1, 2011 15:12:54 GMT -5
Woooow cranker I also said it at the top
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Post by Carolina Hurricanes on May 1, 2011 15:12:55 GMT -5
Are they like the Green party or something. Do they even have a representative running for prime minister?
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Post by Anaheim Ducks on May 1, 2011 15:16:51 GMT -5
Here's the shocking reality people. THE CANADIAN POLITICAL SYSTEM IS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC. A) people are not making decisions, they are selecting their leader. b) you do NOT select the leader of the party. c) it is physically impossible for an independent to be Prime Minister. You MUST be part of a party, and a major one a that. There is no true democracy in Canada. I agree with this. If they had a real chance at getting in, I would be a lot more reluctant to support the guy. Agreed. However, if we were to steer towards the full democratic system (which will NEVER be achieved, even in a complete utopia) , we would disregard the figure head, and rather vote for the principles of which a party stands for. ^^ EXACTLY what he said. It's true. Theoretically, even in complete democracy, it STILL isn't democratic. |
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins on May 1, 2011 15:33:44 GMT -5
Here's the shocking reality people. THE CANADIAN POLITICAL SYSTEM IS ANTI-DEMOCRATIC. A) people are not making decisions, they are selecting their leader. b) you do NOT select the leader of the party. c) it is physically impossible for an independent to be Prime Minister. You MUST be part of a party, and a major one a that. There is no true democracy in Canada. I agree with this. If they had a real chance at getting in, I would be a lot more reluctant to support the guy. Agreed. However, if we were to steer towards the full democratic system (which will NEVER be achieved, even in a complete utopia) , we would disregard the figure head, and rather vote for the principles of which a party stands for. I don't vote for dictator. I vote for the party represents and what they are capable of doing or have done for me in the past. Don't have to worry about NDP getting to many votes in Ontario. We having been paying for what Bob Ray and the NDP did to us for along time now. Funny though Bob may be the next leader of Liberal party after this election and Liberal's total distruction. LOL Good Luck Bob. The Liberals really need to rethink the face of the party, they continue to make our decision very easy for us with people they choose to represnet thm. |
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Post by Vancouver Canucks on May 1, 2011 15:44:31 GMT -5
I think change is happening Flames the Liberals fall while the NDP rise
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Post by Pittsburgh Penguins on May 1, 2011 15:50:06 GMT -5
yes the NDP is rising. But not enough. I have no problem if the NDP got in though. It won't happen. But I would have no problem with it. I like what they want to do. Just won't happen becuase there budget would never get put through. Most aren't willing to pay the taxes it would cost to get done what they want to do. I would be, but most people just expect things to happen at no cost to them. Kinda funny. Just happy to watch the Liberals conitue to fall.
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Post by Personnel Representative on May 1, 2011 15:56:43 GMT -5
Vote Rhinoceros Party in 2011. DO IT.
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Post by XX - Former Wings - XX on May 1, 2011 15:59:54 GMT -5
Vote Rhinoceros Party in 2011. DO IT. Done. I voted at age 17... Now what? |
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