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Post by Personnel Representative on Mar 24, 2009 17:12:21 GMT -5
"GOD" gave humans free will, and stood back. He is letting us make out choices and letting us try to find our way. Yes there is bad things in the world like cancer, war etc... but we have brought these things upon ourselves. Wars are faught because of religion, money, greediness. Diseases are brought on by a lot of things, smoking, pollution etc. There are things that we cannot explain and thats where the belief comes into it. I am not a firm believer in "GOD" per say but I do believe in a lot of ideas from a lof of religions. This is one debate that will never end and will keep people at odds, because of the free will that we have been graced with Amen
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Post by Boston Bruins on Mar 24, 2009 17:14:04 GMT -5
this is a very difficult thing to argue, because both sides believe that they are right. notice I said both 'believe', either side can be wrong, (likely everyone is) but we'll never know.
anyway if anyone is discussing trying to 'convert' or make someone see your point of view dont bother, you'll end up fighting, it's "fate" with things like these. lol.
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Post by Colorado Avalanche on Mar 24, 2009 17:17:37 GMT -5
"GOD" gave humans free will, and stood back. He is letting us make out choices and letting us try to find our way. Yes there is bad things in the world like cancer, war etc... but we have brought these things upon ourselves. Wars are faught because of religion, money, greediness. Diseases are brought on by a lot of things, smoking, pollution etc. There are things that we cannot explain and thats where the belief comes into it. I am not a firm believer in "GOD" per say but I do believe in a lot of ideas from a lof of religions. This is one debate that will never end and will keep people at odds, because of the free will that we have been graced with You say we are bringing these things on ourselves and in most cases that is true. But what about the innocent victims of war? they brought nothing on themselves because they did nothing wrong. Also you said yourself that religion is a contributing factor to war so in a way the existence of God actually contributes to evil. Just saying that not all bad things in this world are brought on by ourselves.
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 24, 2009 17:17:57 GMT -5
It is cool to see everyone's opinion and it is great to see that no one is arguing too.
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 24, 2009 17:18:42 GMT -5
"GOD" gave humans free will, and stood back. He is letting us make out choices and letting us try to find our way. Yes there is bad things in the world like cancer, war etc... but we have brought these things upon ourselves. Wars are faught because of religion, money, greediness. Diseases are brought on by a lot of things, smoking, pollution etc. There are things that we cannot explain and thats where the belief comes into it. I am not a firm believer in "GOD" per say but I do believe in a lot of ideas from a lof of religions. This is one debate that will never end and will keep people at odds, because of the free will that we have been graced with You say we are bringing these things on ourselves and in most cases that is true. But what about the innocent victims of war? they brought nothing on themselves because they did nothing wrong. Also you said yourself that religion is a contributing factor to war so in a way the existence of God actually contributes to evil. Just saying that not all bad things in this world are brought on by ourselves. very good point.
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Post by Personnel Representative on Mar 24, 2009 17:19:07 GMT -5
"GOD" gave humans free will, and stood back. He is letting us make out choices and letting us try to find our way. Yes there is bad things in the world like cancer, war etc... but we have brought these things upon ourselves. Wars are faught because of religion, money, greediness. Diseases are brought on by a lot of things, smoking, pollution etc. There are things that we cannot explain and thats where the belief comes into it. I am not a firm believer in "GOD" per say but I do believe in a lot of ideas from a lof of religions. This is one debate that will never end and will keep people at odds, because of the free will that we have been graced with You say we are bringing these things on ourselves and in most cases that is true. But what about the innocent victims of war? they brought nothing on themselves because they did nothing wrong. Also you said yourself that religion is a contributing factor to war so in a way the existence of God actually contributes to evil. Just saying that not all bad things in this world are brought on by ourselves. The innocent victims of war: they know what they did. That one time, the Vietnamese woman dropped rice on the ground and what did she do? IGNORED IT! death deserved, justice served.
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Post by mattyh on Mar 24, 2009 17:20:29 GMT -5
"GOD" gave humans free will, and stood back. He is letting us make out choices and letting us try to find our way. Yes there is bad things in the world like cancer, war etc... but we have brought these things upon ourselves. Wars are faught because of religion, money, greediness. Diseases are brought on by a lot of things, smoking, pollution etc. There are things that we cannot explain and thats where the belief comes into it. I am not a firm believer in "GOD" per say but I do believe in a lot of ideas from a lof of religions. This is one debate that will never end and will keep people at odds, because of the free will that we have been graced with You say we are bringing these things on ourselves and in most cases that is true. But what about the innocent victims of war? they brought nothing on themselves because they did nothing wrong. Also you said yourself that religion is a contributing factor to war so in a way the existence of God actually contributes to evil. Just saying that not all bad things in this world are brought on by ourselves. It is a sin that innocent victems are killed everyday, what I meant to say by us bringing this upon ourselves is as a whole society. Americas so called "war on terrorism" has killed so many innocent people but they call it a must to end terrorsim, which it wont because those so called religious terriorst groups will continue to fight for thier cause. So thats what I meant by humans bringing this on ourselves.
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 24, 2009 17:21:18 GMT -5
You say we are bringing these things on ourselves and in most cases that is true. But what about the innocent victims of war? they brought nothing on themselves because they did nothing wrong. Also you said yourself that religion is a contributing factor to war so in a way the existence of God actually contributes to evil. Just saying that not all bad things in this world are brought on by ourselves. The innocent victims of war: they know what they did. That one time, the Vietnamese woman dropped rice on the ground and what did she do? IGNORED IT! death deserved, justice served. not quite sure what you are trying to say here
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Post by Personnel Representative on Mar 24, 2009 17:23:48 GMT -5
Why are you so sensitive towards this Jersey? It's a joke dude
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 24, 2009 17:23:48 GMT -5
Since Pittsburgh brought up the "war on terror"...it reminded me of how much I dislike "hardcore" religious nuts.
What is everyone's opinion on Bush saying the "god told him to go into Iraq"...Is that any different than the Texas lady that killed her kids and said that "god" told her to di it?
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Post by mattyh on Mar 24, 2009 17:24:37 GMT -5
Bush is another debate all together lol
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 24, 2009 17:25:04 GMT -5
Why are you so sensitive towards this Jersey? It's a joke dude I guess it is because my family is full of very religious people. They use "god" as a reason for everything and it just got to me one day. Sorry for being so serious about it lol
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Post by Personnel Representative on Mar 24, 2009 17:25:28 GMT -5
When it comes to Religious discussions, women have no place.
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Post by Boston Bruins on Mar 24, 2009 17:25:49 GMT -5
yeah I dont know if a world leader should be that religious, Kings have done this before and it never ended well.
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Post by Personnel Representative on Mar 24, 2009 17:26:06 GMT -5
In the words of former Tampa: Why So SERIOUS!!!!! lol
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Post by Boston Bruins on Mar 24, 2009 17:26:25 GMT -5
the monarchs not the team on mannhl. lol.
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Post by mattyh on Mar 24, 2009 17:26:45 GMT -5
WOW leafs, sunk to a new low there lol
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 24, 2009 17:27:24 GMT -5
In the words of former Tampa: Why So SERIOUS!!!!! lol hahahaha...he would actually serve a purpose in this situation
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Post by Personnel Representative on Mar 24, 2009 17:28:09 GMT -5
lol
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