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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 26, 2009 15:28:16 GMT -5
I just received an assignment from school. It is to write about whether or not "creationism" should be taught in public schools or not. I already have my own opinion on the matter and I pretty much have the assignment planned out but, I want to see the opinion of you intelligent people ;D Maybe you guys can open my mind a bit.
Thanks in advance.
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Post by bruinsftw on Mar 26, 2009 15:37:41 GMT -5
Yes, but to an extent. Students in public school aren't taught as Catholics, but i agree to creationism in public school, because some students who cannot get a sufficient understanding of their culture and religion should. Like separate classes to those who opt to it, and it provides a better understanding of who the students are and where they came from.
Some teachers who actually teach evolution don't really believe in it themselves, who actually believe in creationism.
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 26, 2009 15:42:10 GMT -5
Yes, but to an extent. Students in public school aren't taught as Catholics, but i agree to creationism in public school, because some students who cannot get a sufficient understanding of their culture and religion should. Like separate classes to those who opt to it, and it provides a better understanding of who the students are and where they came from. Some teachers who actually teach evolution don't really believe in it themselves, who actually believe in creationism. My opinion is a little different than yours. I think it should definitely not be taught in science since it is obviously not science. I think that it cannot be taught in an elective class because then, which creationism do you teach? The christian one? The hindu one? the native american one? there are just too many to teach therefore, you would inevitably offend some sort of religion by not teaching their myth.
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Post by bruinsftw on Mar 26, 2009 15:42:24 GMT -5
Like you can not teach creationism that would cause commotion in the school that can trigger fights, argument, and tension between not only the students, but teachers themselves. Also students would befriend other students, and all these cliques would emerge, and all you see, all these different schools pop up like Hindu or Sikh school from popularity in the city. Then taxes would go to these different schools, and then it would be in major political hands... and etc.
But like I said, i approve of it, but to an extent
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Post by bruinsftw on Mar 26, 2009 15:44:46 GMT -5
Yes, but to an extent. Students in public school aren't taught as Catholics, but i agree to creationism in public school, because some students who cannot get a sufficient understanding of their culture and religion should. Like separate classes to those who opt to it, and it provides a better understanding of who the students are and where they came from. Some teachers who actually teach evolution don't really believe in it themselves, who actually believe in creationism. My opinion is a little different than yours. I think it should definitely not be taught in science since it is obviously not science. I think that it cannot be taught in an elective class because then, which creationism do you teach? The christian one? The hindu one? the native american one? there are just too many to teach therefore, you would inevitably offend some sort of religion by not teaching their myth. I totally agree with you 100%, but its only to students who opt to do it. It would create jobs, further interest in ones culture, and one could really appreciate deep down who they really are.
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 26, 2009 15:53:46 GMT -5
My opinion is a little different than yours. I think it should definitely not be taught in science since it is obviously not science. I think that it cannot be taught in an elective class because then, which creationism do you teach? The christian one? The hindu one? the native american one? there are just too many to teach therefore, you would inevitably offend some sort of religion by not teaching their myth. I totally agree with you 100%, but its only to students who opt to do it. It would create jobs, further interest in ones culture, and one could really appreciate deep down who they really are. I understand what you mean but, it is impossible to make "elective" classes for creationism because there are just too many myths to teach. In the Constitution (I know most of you are from Canada but whatever), it states that no religion should be valued higher than another by the government. Since public schools receive federal tax dollars, it would violate that statement
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Post by bruinsftw on Mar 26, 2009 20:24:55 GMT -5
I totally agree with you 100%, but its only to students who opt to do it. It would create jobs, further interest in ones culture, and one could really appreciate deep down who they really are. I understand what you mean but, it is impossible to make "elective" classes for creationism because there are just too many myths to teach. In the Constitution (I know most of you are from Canada but whatever), it states that no religion should be valued higher than another by the government. Since public schools receive federal tax dollars, it would violate that statement So how about the catholic schools? aren't they primarily dominated by CATHOLICS? Well, id say creationism should be kept after school, or before school, set up by peers themselves who would like to educate themselves of their heritage.
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 26, 2009 20:31:08 GMT -5
I understand what you mean but, it is impossible to make "elective" classes for creationism because there are just too many myths to teach. In the Constitution (I know most of you are from Canada but whatever), it states that no religion should be valued higher than another by the government. Since public schools receive federal tax dollars, it would violate that statement So how about the catholic schools? aren't they primarily dominated by CATHOLICS? Well, id say creationism should be kept after school, or before school, set up by peers themselves who would like to educate themselves of their heritage. I was talking about PUBLIC schools. I believe I said public many times and in the title of the thread
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Post by bobert on Mar 26, 2009 21:05:07 GMT -5
what is creationism
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Post by xx - former Devils GM - xx on Mar 26, 2009 21:27:38 GMT -5
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Post by New York Rangers on Mar 26, 2009 22:10:31 GMT -5
It could upset some people if it was taught, however the big bang theory is somewhat described. I'm not sure, maybe as an optional class.
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Post by bruinsftw on Mar 27, 2009 7:37:24 GMT -5
So how about the catholic schools? aren't they primarily dominated by CATHOLICS? Well, id say creationism should be kept after school, or before school, set up by peers themselves who would like to educate themselves of their heritage. I was talking about PUBLIC schools. I believe I said public many times and in the title of the thread no i was countering what you were saying about hwo every religion is suppose to be represented as an equal, but how about the catholic school. I think it should be an elective that takes place after school aand is arranged by the students who want to learn. A volunteer from a local church, mosque, temple, whatever to teach these students...
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Post by Personnel Representative on Mar 27, 2009 13:21:40 GMT -5
You guys are looking at it the wrong way. A creationism class shouldn't take more than a one or two day class. That said, encorporate it into your English courses. Have a discussion on it on one day, the following day provide handouts of material that discusses religious views involving Adam and Eve and have them write a paper on the connection in the text to creationism. There are a lot of incredible writers in the 16th and 17th century that acknowledge God and even a few pieces that argue with each other from the 17th century as to whether or not Man is from the great father (Adam) or a product of God. Just really odd arguements. So no, it won't ever be a freaking class named "Creationism" beacuse there's just not enough to talk about, but yes, it can certainly be taught through a relation to old works in English courses.
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Post by PR's Old Account (DO NOT PM) on Apr 5, 2009 2:09:26 GMT -5
I wish I saw this earlier. There are none more intelligent than I on this site...
Largely unrelated, but something to think about: - if a person beliefs in a man with a white beard living in the sky, creating life on earth, they are sane, and in many cases, a majority.... - if a person believes in little green men having come to Earth and planted seeds 100 Million years ago that grew into human beings, they are nuts, ridiculed, and often chastised...
one man in sky - foundation of many religions many green men - a few schizophrenic nut bars
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Post by Boston Bruins on Apr 5, 2009 22:24:17 GMT -5
haha ain't it the truth with only one man to believe in there is only one name to remember, no one wants to believe in something that take 3 years to memorize. lol.
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