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Post by Personnel Representative on Jul 19, 2011 12:03:44 GMT -5
I am INCREDIBLY bored with negotiating entry-level contracts, as they are BORING. So here's what Leafs and I have agreed-upon as fair. 1) All players drafted in the first round must negotiate their contracts. They will have 3 year terms, and be 2 way. They cannot exceed 1M/year in base salary. They cannot exceed 8.55M in bonuses. And most of these greedy young bastards will definitely be seeking bonuses. Just a heads up. 2) All second round picks will be auto-signed to a 3 year, 0.85M, 2 way contract. No negotiating needed. It bores me. And you guys hate it.  3) All " Add 2 prospects" players are auto-signed to a 2 year, 1M, 2-way contract. Note: All of these players will be RFAs at the end of their contracts.For the many of you who have already signed prospects, and draft picks, I'll give you the choice - you can switch those contracts to the contracts outlined above, or you can keep the ones we negotiated. But any entry-level contracts from here forward are done as outlined above, unless there is some serious backlash to this idea or something. (Post backlash below) If you are keeping or changing any previously-posted entry-level signings, please update your signings post, and indicate that you have done so below. So Leafs can update the Master Roster appropriately.Thank you, and I hope you find this update as beneficial and aesthetically pleasing as I do. Love PR. |
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Post by XX - Former Wings - XX on Jul 19, 2011 12:10:19 GMT -5
For the add 2 prospects, i think they should be 0.75/2 years, since they are DEF not worth more than 2nd round pick IMO.
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 19, 2011 12:14:02 GMT -5
For the add 2 prospects, i think they should be 0.75/2 years, since they are DEF not worth more than 2nd round pick IMO. Reason being is that most 2nd round picks are a year or two away from being productive in the league. These prospects have been "seasoned" prior to their addition, and thus were developed properly by your team (theoretically) and thus would have more of an immediate impact. Hence one year, then you move forward based on that players performance and progress. |
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Post by Nashville Predators on Jul 19, 2011 12:14:29 GMT -5
I think the add two prospects should be negotiated if they are 1st rounders or the simple 850k for 2nd or lower.
And why only one year? They're prospects too.
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Post by Nashville Predators on Jul 19, 2011 12:15:57 GMT -5
Oh, and $8.55m? Really?
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 19, 2011 12:20:28 GMT -5
I think the add two prospects should be negotiated if they are 1st rounders or the simple 850k for 2nd or lower. And why only one year? They're prospects too. One year because all new draft picks are a max 3 years entry-level, so prospects that have been "developing" are considered to have been doing so for two years, thus a one-year entry level contract. |
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 19, 2011 12:21:12 GMT -5
This is based on the real nhl. It's a maximum of 8.55M over the three year entry level contract. That's why players like Schenn and Doughty started out with like 3M cap hits on their contracts. |
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Post by Nashville Predators on Jul 19, 2011 12:25:19 GMT -5
This is based on the real nhl. It's a maximum of 8.55M over the three year entry level contract. That's why players like Schenn and Doughty started out with like 3M cap hits on their contracts. Ohhh, I'm thinking a max of $8.55m PER season. That makes more sense. |
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Post by Nashville Predators on Jul 19, 2011 12:27:36 GMT -5
I think the add two prospects should be negotiated if they are 1st rounders or the simple 850k for 2nd or lower. And why only one year? They're prospects too. One year because all new draft picks are a max 3 years entry-level, so prospects that have been "developing" are considered to have been doing so for two years, thus a one-year entry level contract. Still don't think it's right. They're developing in the CHL/NCAA/where ever and it doesn't take years out of their actual ELC. |
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 19, 2011 12:36:21 GMT -5
One year because all new draft picks are a max 3 years entry-level, so prospects that have been "developing" are considered to have been doing so for two years, thus a one-year entry level contract. Still don't think it's right. They're developing in the CHL/NCAA/where ever and it doesn't take years out of their actual ELC. I think at most these players should be on 2 year auto deals, so if you'd prefer that, I'm fine with it as long as PR is. |
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Post by Personnel Representative on Jul 19, 2011 12:41:11 GMT -5
If you guys want to ACTUALLY negotiate every SINGLE contract, I am game for that too, but it means I will require A LOT more information in your offers. And you will need to be prepared to have a prospect walk away if you plan on playing him on your first line but refuse to offer ANY bonus AT ALL.
This auto-signing came in because a lot of GMs don;t like bonuses, as they are messy. So we felt this was fair and simple. 1 year gives everyone time to figure shit out, in regards to roles, performance, etc, without having to pay a bonus. Then, he is an RFA, so you can either keep him, or get compensation for him.
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Post by Boston Bruins on Jul 19, 2011 12:41:25 GMT -5
I'm alright with the way he wrote it. It works.
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Post by Phoenix Coyotes on Jul 19, 2011 12:46:06 GMT -5
I'm ok with the way you want to handle the players being drafted. Auto signing 2nd rounders will make things a lot easier.
I think that the "Add 2 Prospects" should be atleast 2 year deals. Most of the guys being added were just drafted last year in real life.
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Post by Toronto Maple Leafs on Jul 19, 2011 12:50:10 GMT -5
I'm ok with the way you want to handle the players being drafted. Auto signing 2nd rounders will make things a lot easier. I think that the "Add 2 Prospects" should be atleast 2 year deals. Most of the guys being added were just drafted last year in real life. Exactly, and that gives them "one year" of development OFF of their entry level contract (so to speak). I'm fine with this if the rest of the league would prefer them to have 2 year deals. |
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Post by Nashville Predators on Jul 19, 2011 12:50:40 GMT -5
Still don't think it's right. They're developing in the CHL/NCAA/where ever and it doesn't take years out of their actual ELC. I think at most these players should be on 2 year auto deals, so if you'd prefer that, I'm fine with it as long as PR is. I think that's more reasonable. I think bonuses for 1st rounders are okay. Adding it for 2nd/3rd/7th is a little much, imo. My opinion, all 2nd or later get base salary for whatever round they were drafted in. 2nd 800k, 3rd 750k, etc. 1st rounders should negotiate their deals, top 10 should for sure get bonuses(unless the player just wants to play, some players are not all about the $$$) and the picks 11-30, some might, some might not. |
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Post by Personnel Representative on Jul 19, 2011 12:53:46 GMT -5
If lots of people (not just 2  ) want 2 year contracts, that's fine too. It's kinda a compliment to me, actually, seeing as you are gambling that I would get them a higher than 1M contract after 1 season, so you want to keep them cheaper longer.  Because realistically, based on last season, what happens is they don;t play, they get offered a 0.8M contract, and they accept it. So 1M, 2 years is fine. |
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Post by Nashville Predators on Jul 19, 2011 12:56:09 GMT -5
If lots of people (not just 2 ) want 2 year contracts, that's fine too. It's kinda a compliment to me, actually, seeing as you are gambling that I would get them a higher than 1M contract after 1 season, so you want to keep them cheaper longer. Because realistically, based on last season, what happens is they don;t play, they get offered a 0.8M contract, and they accept it. So 1M, 2 years is fine. More so about the type of contract, I don't want a questionable young player, might not even played a game yet refusing to sign a 2-way. |
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Post by Personnel Representative on Jul 19, 2011 13:17:32 GMT -5
Direct me to when this has happened in the past and I will concede your point. Sorry, hit "modify" instead of "quote" |
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Post by XX - Former Jackets - XX on Jul 19, 2011 13:20:18 GMT -5
I'm definitely in favour of 2 years instead of 1 for th 2 prospects. I'm sure most people would be.
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Post by XX - Former Hawks - XX on Jul 19, 2011 13:20:52 GMT -5
I'm ok with the way you want to handle the players being drafted. Auto signing 2nd rounders will make things a lot easier. I think that the "Add 2 Prospects" should be atleast 2 year deals. Most of the guys being added were just drafted last year in real life. I like this idea. |
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) want 2 year contracts, that's fine too. It's kinda a compliment to me, actually, seeing as you are gambling that I would get them a higher than 1M contract after 1 season, so you want to keep them cheaper longer. 
